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Post by mrsbee on Jul 1, 2016 22:29:40 GMT
My first Glasto and it definitely took me a while to get into it. As much as the mud was out of anyone's control, had it been Latitude we'd have all been bitching and moaning that there weren't more woodchips and boards put down in dangerous areas or that the site is laid out in a way which guarantees the most horrendous bottle necks (see the 2011? bridge complaints at Latitude). On the Friday and Sunday I gave up trying to see much as it was just too much effort to trek betweem stages and I couldn't really enjoy it when I got there anyway. Overall, I think, even regardless of the mud, I failed to see the magic that my friends insist the festival can produce. The late night instalations - Block 9, Arcadia, the Common etc. - are pretty amazing, but there was so much drum and bass and UK garage that I quickly got tired of them and could barely tell them apart. The Bowie/Prince tributes which I was hoping would be a focal point of a fairly weak lineup but it was all very half-hearted - I thought they were going to play Bowie's 2000 set in full which would have been amazing even at a quieter time. The mud and rain does make a huge difference to the atmosphere to be fair. Instead of people sitting about chilling on the grass and listening to sets the whole site seems to be on the move all the time as it is so difficult to sit down without some form of chair. Silver hayes was a mess, made getting to John Peel difficult and we gave up even attempting to get to The Park. I've seen people elsewhere raving about how wonderful it was but for us it felt a bit flat this year....and i swear it was busier but this might just be the "moving around" thing causing it to feel that way. Only been to south east corner once in the evening in the five we have been to and hated it (Musically that is)
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Post by daemon on Jul 3, 2016 19:51:01 GMT
I didn't get on to the positives yet, will revisit when I get a chance.
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Post by Eddytheviper on Jul 8, 2016 13:36:48 GMT
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Post by kerry1 on Jul 8, 2016 14:13:34 GMT
That's awful.
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Post by riverlodge on Jul 26, 2016 12:50:54 GMT
so this, in my inbox, while I was at lunch: Hello, Thank you for buying tickets to End of the Road Festival 2016. Your E-Ticket(s) and receipt are attached, but only E-Ticket(s) need printing. Please also remember to print off your Car Park Pass or Campervan/Caravan pass in advance. We would ask that you have these on your dashboard ready for scanning upon entry. Let us know if you change your email address. We'll be emailing you all again before the festival with key bits of information for End of the Road 2016. For updates on transport options, the line-up and Boutique Camping opportunities please keep an eye on our website: www.endoftheroadfestival.comLooking forward to seeing you in September! End of the Road WOOOOOOOOO!
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Post by jamesf on Jul 26, 2016 12:56:01 GMT
Was wondering when they would be sent out as they said end of July. Just checked and not had my email yet but good to know they are being sent out!
Not sold out this year but they keep posting on Facebook and twitter to hurry up as last few left which I hope is not just marketing as my wife had heard only last week that they were worried about ticket sales, this came from a work colleague whose step-son is a promoter for some of the bands.
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Post by jamesf on Jul 26, 2016 13:19:26 GMT
My end of the road email has now arrived!
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Post by born in the fifties on Aug 2, 2016 18:23:13 GMT
Y Not Review
Well, if you look at their Facebook page post festival – lots of reasons why not, including : • Thefts from tents • Tents being vandalised (e.g. slashed) • Utterly useless security • Crushing/Lack of safety in some of the tents • Throwing of cans (sometimes empty, sometimes not) • General laddish behaviour (as in young people, too much drink, etc., etc.) • Appalling state of toilets, and resulting aromas • Lack of bins > amount of rubbish I could add a whole host of other minor gripes about the festival’s organisation, which seemed very last minute and undercooked. Fortunately I was not in an area with the tent problems but can agree with most of the rest. Toilets would certainly get my award for ‘Worst ever festival toilets’, although admittedly my memory on such matters no longer stretches back as far as my late 60s/early 70s festivals, which almost certainly pre-dates festival flush toilets.
Essentially they increased the capacity from 20k to 25k (to pay for Noel Gallaher?) and then put on a line-up to was always going to increase the Reading/Leeds nature of the attendees. Trying to be both Reading/Leeds and a family festival is a tough one.
So some of the positives : • The choice of beers and ciders – given the relative paucity of food choices, it was a major surprise to find a good line-up of casks. Pretty much the only aspect of the festival that was similar to EOTR and GM. • Peter Hook and the Light – while the young people were watching Catfish on the main stage, a wonderful set in the big marque, cue singalong and dancing. • The Coral – A mix of old favourites and the excellent new album. The ex-Zutons guitarist a great addition. • The Vryll Society – 4th time I’ve seen them in the last 12 months. They get better every time. If you haven’t checked them out already (and you’re not averse to some Psych guitar) …… (and that's 3 acts that ought to be at Latitude next year) • Otherkin and Broken Witt Rebels – didn’t catch their full sets in the Alcove at Latitude, but did here. • Eagulls – didn’t like them when I saw them at Latitude c. 3 years ago, but everyone told me their 2nd album is a step up so decided to give them another go, a good decision and must now listen to the album. • White, Louis Berry – missed both of these at Latitude, glad to have caught them here. • Asylums – Southend’s finest (since the Kursaal Flyers?), who I’d been wanting to see live for a while. • Plus Dagny, White Room, Black Honey, Sunset Sons, The Sherlocks, Eliza and the Bear, Cabbage to name a few. • Tested my new 100% merino base layers, bought in preparation for EOTR in case we get a repeat of last year’s Saturday night cold
Other thoughts : • While I enjoyed Noel Gallagher’s set from close to the barrier, and it was similar in content to last year’s Latitude set, we didn’t get as much banter, and it seemed a bit formulaic. As someone said to me afterwards, ‘enjoyed it, but it felt a bit corporate’. Not sure Noel would be thrilled to be described as ‘corporate’. • While I’ve probably seen enough indie guitar bands to last me the summer now, I guess there’s still a few more for me to take in at GM And EOTR. A bit more variety in the line-up would have helped. Overall score, which was not helped by being in the beautiful Peak District when it started off wet, seldom got very warm and the exposed site plus strong wind led to a problematic main stage sound : 6/10.
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Post by Eddytheviper on Aug 3, 2016 7:58:37 GMT
I've really not heard great reviews of Y Not, not just from customers but from agencies too.
I don't think you'll see me going there, glad you came out alive though.
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Post by Moz on Aug 3, 2016 8:46:20 GMT
Yeah.......last time we went to Y-not (in.....*quick google search*...2013) it was dire. EXACTLY like Mr Borninthe50s has said. Lots of pissed up dicks. The weather was SO bad on the friday, the whole site shut down whilst waiting for a thunder storm to pass over. Again, tent thefts & vandalism near where we were (not us, but our neighbours), with racist security guards. The 'cinema' tent playing REALLY dodgy, pirated copies of movies....I could go on. We actually left Sunday morning. Partly because we didnt wanna see much on that day, but MOSTLY because the vile, rancid stench of underage boozey vomit was too much (this is a metaphore). And it was a shame, because the first time we went (in....*quick google search*....2011), it were fab! IT were a combined ticket with 2000trees which, for me and missus Moz to go, cost us less than 1 ticket for the 'tude in 2011 (which i remember 'throwing my toys out of the pram' and refusing to go to, due to the combination of Paloma Faith, Paolo Nutini and the year before being the 'worst' Latitude ever). And it was grand! We were in 'quiet' camping which WAS quiet, crowds were nicely 'merry', bands played stonkers (ESPECIALLY Dananananaykroyd and a BRILLIANT Art Brut, at their most divisive best), there were good food & drink options, peeps were friendly....that year we had to leave on the Sunday (due to work), but stayed till the last headliner finished....
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Post by jamesf on Aug 8, 2016 7:58:05 GMT
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Post by vamboozle on Aug 8, 2016 9:07:06 GMT
Whilst the overall point of the article is probably true (that a hardcore set of festival goers drive the market) to base all of their findings on a sample of 504 (probably self selecting) people is a bit of a stretch - particularly when you think of the hundreds of thousands who attend festivals each year. Also so I don't think spending £581 a year on festivals necessarily makes you a super fan - you'd only have to attend 2 festivals to spend that (say £350-£400 on tickets depending on the festivals, £50 on petrol, £200 on food & drink) and I don't think 2 festivals makes you a super fan. And if they are upgrading to posh camping etc, they'd easily drop £581 on one festival and then some. So in my book a fairly poor peice of statistical sampling. That being said I do think the average festival audience seems to be splitting into 2 main camps - the committed music lovers (aka most people here) and the Facebook look at me at a festival crowd (at this point I direct you to the Green Man forum and their idea to set up a Rapid Response Tutting Unit to deal with chatters)
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Post by geof on Aug 8, 2016 9:39:06 GMT
Hmmmmm....I have a "tree" of 60-70 festival wristbands in my hall.....and I've been really itchy last year and this because I could only attend three festies...
....and i call them "festies"!
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Post by geof on Aug 8, 2016 9:42:08 GMT
Actually I've just remembered that I'm probably going to four.....but I keep forgetting the fourth because it doesn't involve camping - not because I'll be working a bit during the day.
Not sure that superfan is the right word..........I'm afeared it may be addict!
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Post by mrsimonw on Aug 8, 2016 15:36:58 GMT
28% of festival goers go to 4 (or more) events a year? Really? Seems a little high. I'd be a little surprised if 28% of the regular users of this forum (who are probably more hard-core festival goers than most) attended 4 this year.
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Post by Raffles on Aug 9, 2016 13:37:45 GMT
I guess it depends whether you include the one day events like Hyde park. But I agree, the statistical sampling lacks robustness.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 19:04:09 GMT
So I gave up on not going to Green Man, which is located 5 miles from where I live, 2 hours before they sold out.
Glad I did book in the end.
Not the greatest line-up this year but I am looking forward to Lush, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, Michael Rother, Laura Marling, Belle and Sebastian and (the deal clincher for me) Jason Isbell.
Plus I can go home and sleep in my own bed every night or stay in my friends 6-man tent should I choose to.
Ideal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 19:08:04 GMT
I guess it depends whether you include the one day events like Hyde park. But I agree, the statistical sampling lacks robustness. I was thinking about this myself when I saw the poll. Now I'm going to Green Man that's 3 with Glastonbury and Latitude this year. As you said though do outdoor day events count? I went to see Bruce Springsteen in Coventry, the Manics' Everything Must Go show in Swansea and the last night of The Stone Roses run at the Etihad in Manchester. I wouldn't class those gigs as festivals (they were all in football stadiums) but if the pollsters do maybe I am one of these fabled super fans!
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Post by riverlodge on Aug 9, 2016 21:30:21 GMT
if you don't camp, it's not a festival. discuss.
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Post by vamboozle on Aug 10, 2016 6:44:11 GMT
if you don't camp, it's not a festival. discuss. Agree if you don't wake up at least once with a hangover on a deflated air bed with all your belongings slightly damp, it ain't a festival. Mind you you that would have been a good Saturday night in my youth.
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Post by born in the fifties on Aug 16, 2016 8:57:51 GMT
Off to experience the micro-climate of a Welsh mountain river valley for Green Man on Thursday. I believe there's at least a couple of us going.
I'll be at the GM forum meet-up on Thursday evening, which is in the Walled Garden before, during and after Flamingods (Flamingods are in Far Out tent from 18:00 to 19:00). I'll certainly be at the meet-up both before and after, and probably during. My t-shirt is my avatar, so if you are going to GM, and are there on the Thursday, it would be great to say hello.
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Post by Raffles on Aug 16, 2016 12:00:40 GMT
if you don't camp, it's not a festival. discuss. Does that mean Mrs Raffs was not at Latitude then?
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Post by oapdub on Aug 16, 2016 17:23:26 GMT
Off to experience the micro-climate of a Welsh mountain river valley for Green Man on Thursday. I believe there's at least a couple of us going. I'll be at the GM forum meet-up on Thursday evening, which is in the Walled Garden before, during and after Flamingods (Flamingods are in Far Out tent from 18:00 to 19:00). I'll certainly be at the meet-up both before and after, and probably during. My t-shirt is my avatar, so if you are going to GM, and are there on the Thursday, it would be great to say hello. Likewise I'll be at Green Man. Prob not at meet up though as fancy catching Flamingods.
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Post by born in the fifties on Aug 22, 2016 19:42:54 GMT
Green Man review
Got up to leave home early on Thursday so as to be parked up ready for the gates opening at 10am, which was all part of the plan to use the one day of the festival with guaranteed good weather to get the tent up and all my stuff into it before noon, and then do the hike up to the top of Table Mountain, which overlooks the festival. Probably as spectacular view of a festival site as you can get anywhere, but hard work in the hot sun and the first time I’ve opted for a festival shower on the Thursday. Then off to the GM Forum meet-up and the first sampling of one of the 30 ciders on offer (there were 76 beers for those so inclined). Caught some of King Gizzard in the now expanded Big Top tent, one of a number of good changes they’ve made from previous years to accommodate their increase in capacity to 20k. The Walled Garden had been completely re-arranged, with the bar (and it was the one with all the ciders) near the entrance, the stage located in the middle of the far wall and the dreadful techno chip van gone. All credit to them on the numerous changes big and small they had made to the site, I think they pretty much all worked, and you didn’t really notice the numbers having gone up apart from the expanded camping area.
Weatherwise it was classic Welsh mountain river valley after the sunny Thursday; much of the time it threatened to pour, but mainly did so only in the early hours. Instead it just drizzled often enough to be a bit irritating continually putting on the rain top, taking it off, etc, etc. Because the site was bone dry beforehand, and there was a strong drying wind, it never got so muddy that you really needed wellies, and unlike last year I didn’t need a push to get my car through the mud on leaving.
Fortunately for me, the way it worked out I had relatively few clashes, once I’d worked out which acts could be left for EOTR and which I now need not to clash there - BC Camplight, Beak> (heard good things about their set), Kevin Morby (apparently a stunning set, now my top must-see for EOTR), Amber Arcades.
It was possibly the first festival I’ve ever been to that I have seen absolutely no part of the 4 headliners.
So the top 10 :
Baba Naga – great end to my Saturday, a pyschy, drony, wig-out. If anyone is going to the Liverpool Pysch fest – check ‘em out.
Bill Baird – quite quirky, went to see him based on listening to one track; I now need to do some more listening.
Black Peaches – the reason why I missed Kevin Morby, and my set of the weekend. Their line-up is the same as Little Feat, and musically they come from the same heartland. To bastardise a LF lyric, we got the rock and roll doctor’s advice, and sure did all feel real nice. Should be an absolute must have for Latitude next year, don’t care which stage, just give everyone room to boogie, and an hour - minimum.
Cavern of Anti-Matter – another go-see based on one track, and leaving me with more listening to do, and I’d better try some Stereolab as well. Also will be at the Liverpool Pysch fest.
Ezra Furman – nearly set of the weekend, enough said (and, no, for those of you concerned with such things, he wasn’t wearing a dress).
Grandaddy – big tent closer on the Sunday night and played after Ezra (the other way round would have been better for me, if only because the energy levels would have worked better.
Janileigh Cohen – a busker from Bolton, playing her first ever festival, recommended to me by someone I first met watching Jonathan Wilson at Latitude with only about 20 other peeps in the Scary tent (everyone else watching Alabama Shakes) and whom I now seem to bump into at every festival. So glad I went to see her. She has got an EP out, which is on Spotify, if you want to give a listen. Sunrise stage next year, please.
Jason Isbell – I guess we all knew what we were likely to get, and we got it. Excellent.
Miracle Legion – unfortunately clashed with Gun Outfit, who I also wanted to see, so only saw the first half - big mistake, as GO weren’t what I’d hoped for.
Phil Cook and the Guitarheels – just about shaded it from Jason Isbell as my favourite set of the Friday. Next year has to be Garden Stage @ EOTR.
And lastly, great to see a fair amount of the Oapdubs (as per the avatar), who overlapped with me at a number of acts, and to get to know them better. I await a review with interest!
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Post by riverlodge on Aug 22, 2016 20:24:35 GMT
.....nearly.....!
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