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Post by Eddytheviper on Apr 8, 2016 10:30:20 GMT
Why are 'we' being so negative? Stop focusing on the 'doom & gloom' of leaving and emphasise the good of staying, fuckwits!!! But I digress.... I'm actually embarrassed by the campaign. Genuinely concerned we're heading for a leave vote here. Total shower of shite. If Bernie sanders gets in, I'm off. Trudeau seems nice over in Canada too, might have to buy a coat first though.
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Post by Moz on Apr 28, 2016 12:19:07 GMT
What. The fuck. Is happening. In the fricking labour party? They are a shambles! They SHOULD be in the accendancy! Andy Burnham campaigning for Hillsborough makes a moving speech about their struggles. The tory parties plans for academy schools in 'disarray'. The support for junior NHS doctors & their strike! Diddy Cameron's tax affairs (as well as many of the troy parties!). and more!
AND YET......first with Naz Shah's comments before she was an MP. AND NOW...Ken Livingstone! Making a fool of himself! Fucks sake!
Mini rant over....
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Apr 28, 2016 20:10:54 GMT
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Post by riverlodge on Apr 28, 2016 20:10:54 GMT
Owen Jones in today's Guardian, more than worth a read.
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Post by Moz on May 5, 2016 5:34:05 GMT
Voting is Sexy.
That is all.
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Post by Raffles on May 9, 2016 10:33:42 GMT
Great to see Sadiq Khan voted Mayor of London. For all those up north moan about us, we a least we got this one right!
But, the comedown yesterday. Got in my taxi to the airport and the driver went on an immediate and unprovoked rant about how we'd just elected a "R*g-h**d" mayor and that he'd only got in cos of all the "P*k*'s" who go home to die but leave their votes behind to be used by the same ISIS leaders who are taking all their fraudulent benefit money and "mark my words, in our children's lifetime Britain will be an Islamic state, fact" .
Sorry for the offensive language but there are too many people like him out there and they need to be shown up for what they are. They are the ones who vote UKIP. That's 15% of the population who are ignorant bigots. Their vote counts as much as ours. That's why we must all vote to keep them out, even if we struggle to find parties we really believe in right now.
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Post by Moz on May 9, 2016 11:36:40 GMT
It is genuinely shocking that there are some fuckwits who still have these opinions. I hope you complained to a head office of said taxi firm. I know i have NEVER had that sort of shit-wittery in Raffles taxis here in MK. In other news.....i am more and more convinced that Teflon Cameron and oily Osbourne are purposely sabotaging the EU remain campaign. Why else would someone say 'you must stay in, or there will be a war' ?!? Utterly ridiculous. Once again, they have not learnt their lessons from the negative mayoral campaign and trying to 'scare' people into staying with bile and nonsense. As a result....we are gonna leave, arnt we?
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Jun 17, 2016 9:10:54 GMT
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Post by riverlodge on Jun 17, 2016 9:10:54 GMT
So Jeremy Clarkson is siding with Remain - that's helpful eh? :-SS
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Post by Moz on Jun 17, 2016 9:57:03 GMT
To be honest? With the 'man on the street'? It might be a little help. Judging by the polls, it might just be enough.....
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Post by mrsimonw on Jun 17, 2016 11:07:28 GMT
I'm sure it's nothing to do with his new employers and their propensity to undercut British shops by selling CDs from Luxembourg (or some other low-vat jurisdiction)...
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Post by jamesf on Jun 17, 2016 18:13:26 GMT
I'm sure it's nothing to do with his new employers and their propensity to undercut British shops by selling CDs from Luxembourg (or some other low-vat jurisdiction)... Probably very true, always had him down as a little englander. Quite possibly the only time Jez and I agree on something. Though I loath to say it I am glad he is saying it as hopefully it will persuade a few people
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Post by kerry1 on Jun 19, 2016 8:46:33 GMT
And the joy continues....'LibertyGB' is putting up their own little fascist to stand in the Batley and Spen by-election. Appalling c**tishness.
What happened to us? Four years ago we were all positivity and Olympic togetherness.
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Post by Moz on Jun 19, 2016 9:59:12 GMT
It's a lot of things, isn't it? The perceived greater threat of terrorism. The economic situation that the tories create. It is being exploited by fear mongers, with accusations that 'its all the Eu's fault. No jobs? It's EU migrants taking them. AND they wanna bomb us in the process'. It's bollocks of the highest order.
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Post by fiveuke on Jun 20, 2016 15:12:47 GMT
kerry1 at 09:46 " 'LibertyGB' is putting up their own little fascist to stand in the Batley and Spen by-election. Appalling c**tishness. "
Just had to come out of hibernation to virtually stand and applaud this terrifically crafted and aimed abuse. Bravo!
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Post by kerry1 on Jun 21, 2016 18:34:27 GMT
*curtseys, blushing*
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Post by riverlodge on Jun 22, 2016 20:08:50 GMT
I am very sorry Glasto peeps, but for the greater good I hope it blows a gale and pisses it down tomorrow across all UK centres of population. Wxx
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Post by jamesf on Jun 23, 2016 9:12:59 GMT
Have to say I have never been so nervous about the outcome of a vote than I today, even hen faced with the prospect of 5 more years of Tory gloating/rule. It has the prospect to fuck things up politically, economically and personally, I really hope we get it right and I can come back on Saturday knowing we are still part of Europe.
I postal voted.
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Post by Moz on Jun 23, 2016 10:39:21 GMT
Im not so worried (i figured we will be fine either way). Im a bit fed up we need a referendum anyways (lest we forget, it was a manifesto promise by the tories to disuade ex tory voters from voting the racist BNP in suits UKIP).
BUT....what im REALLY fed up with is.....it could have been an opportunity to have a really meaningful discussion on us. What we are like, how we see ourselves. What we want to be? Insular and reminiscing of a 'bygone' age where we raped & pillaged over countries for financial & material gain, or a caring, compassionate place where we work with others for the greater good of the world. But no. IT was 'vote remain or there will be war & financial strife' or 'vote leave or europe will TELL YOU when you should have a cup of tea. AND regulate how you make that tea.'. The fear mongering is shamefull. I am proud to be british & european. This campaign did not make me feel anything NEAR proud.
I would be disappointed if we leave, but the most i can muster is we remain is something approaching relief. I guess....if we remain, at least it would be giving the racist UKIP a beating, which is good (i am also aware that a lot of leave voters are not racist, and that is fine. Its just UKIP are, and their only reason to exit is to get out of europe. So, if we vote remain, they will maybe go away. THAT will be pleasing. But, other than that, its just tiredness, having to think there is a possibility that we will leave an admittedly flawed, but ultimately good thing!
Rant over.
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Post by riverlodge on Jun 23, 2016 11:39:22 GMT
Im not so worried (i figured we will be fine either way). Im a bit fed up we need a referendum anyways (lest we forget, it was a manifesto promise by the tories to disuade ex tory voters from voting the racist BNP in suits UKIP). BUT....what im REALLY fed up with is.....it could have been an opportunity to have a really meaningful discussion on us. What we are like, how we see ourselves. What we want to be? Insular and reminiscing of a 'bygone' age where we raped & pillaged over countries for financial & material gain, or a caring, compassionate place where we work with others for the greater good of the world. But no. IT was 'vote remain or there will be war & financial strife' or 'vote leave or europe will TELL YOU when you should have a cup of tea. AND regulate how you make that tea.'. The fear mongering is shamefull. I am proud to be british & european. This campaign did not make me feel anything NEAR proud. I would be disappointed if we leave, but the most i can muster is we remain is something approaching relief. I guess....if we remain, at least it would be giving the racist UKIP a beating, which is good (i am also aware that a lot of leave voters are not racist, and that is fine. Its just UKIP are, and their only reason to exit is to get out of europe. So, if we vote remain, they will maybe go away. THAT will be pleasing. But, other than that, its just tiredness, having to think there is a possibility that we will leave an admittedly flawed, but ultimately good thing! Rant over. please read John Harris in the Grauniad today......the result is one thing (and I have the same fear as James) but the division is not going away after today.
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Post by ethereal on Jun 23, 2016 11:41:55 GMT
I've been trying my hardest to ignore the 'facts' presented by both sides. The ridiculous claims that have been made for and against just reinforce my opinion that a significant number of politicians will say anything to get noticed but rarely the whole truth. I've tried to do a bit of research on my own, but ultimately any conclusions I've come to are coloured by my own bias and of little use to anyone else. I think either way Britain and Europe will muddle through. Maybe one way will leave us with a few extra pennies in our collective pockets but not enough to drastically alter our lives. So it comes down to philosophy for me. I'm voting remain because a world where we're all one people not divided by nationality or anything else had got to be better than one where it's every person for themselves and the EU is a step in that direction.
I also feel this is an historic day where Britain will divide and in two voices declare 'maybe' on the EU question.
Idealistic nonsense I know, but when you can't trust anything you're hearing you've gotta go with what feels right, right?
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Post by Moz on Jun 23, 2016 12:25:00 GMT
Im not so worried (i figured we will be fine either way). Im a bit fed up we need a referendum anyways (lest we forget, it was a manifesto promise by the tories to disuade ex tory voters from voting the racist BNP in suits UKIP). BUT....what im REALLY fed up with is.....it could have been an opportunity to have a really meaningful discussion on us. What we are like, how we see ourselves. What we want to be? Insular and reminiscing of a 'bygone' age where we raped & pillaged over countries for financial & material gain, or a caring, compassionate place where we work with others for the greater good of the world. But no. IT was 'vote remain or there will be war & financial strife' or 'vote leave or europe will TELL YOU when you should have a cup of tea. AND regulate how you make that tea.'. The fear mongering is shamefull. I am proud to be british & european. This campaign did not make me feel anything NEAR proud. I would be disappointed if we leave, but the most i can muster is we remain is something approaching relief. I guess....if we remain, at least it would be giving the racist UKIP a beating, which is good (i am also aware that a lot of leave voters are not racist, and that is fine. Its just UKIP are, and their only reason to exit is to get out of europe. So, if we vote remain, they will maybe go away. THAT will be pleasing. But, other than that, its just tiredness, having to think there is a possibility that we will leave an admittedly flawed, but ultimately good thing! Rant over. please read John Harris in the Grauniad today......the result is one thing (and I have the same fear as James) but the division is not going away after today. I read that piece, yeah. It just made me a bit more sadder than ive already been thinking today/this week/this campaign.
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Post by kerry1 on Jun 24, 2016 5:16:28 GMT
Farage says it's all been done without a single bullet being fired.
Kill me now. No, really, kill me now.
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Post by ethereal on Jun 24, 2016 5:44:08 GMT
Ah crap!
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Post by Moz on Jun 24, 2016 6:13:18 GMT
Nigel Farage for King of the 'United' Kingdom then. I say 'united', but with Scotland, Northern Island, London, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds and Bristol all voting remain, there isnt much left, right?
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Post by vamboozle on Jun 24, 2016 6:45:19 GMT
Can't work out if I'm more disappointed by the decision taken by the British Public or the fact I'm not surprised by it.
Just hope they don't come to regret this.....sadly I suspect they will.
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Post by born in the fifties on Jun 24, 2016 7:36:29 GMT
If you voted Leave, I assume you are a happy bunny this morning. You may want to stop reading now, as you will likely find what follows offensive. I don't apologise, because it's what I'm thinking and feeling this morning. I suspect however that for most of us on this forum our emotions are in varying degrees towards anger and despair.
- "Please all drop your trousers and skirts now so that you can be right royally fucked by rich and powerful people" - "But I voted Leave......" - "Okay, we'll start with you as you were stupid and/or racist enough to want to be fucked"
And so the shit storm begins.......
Have to try to stay positive, so what good things to say today: well, the sun is shining brightly here, and that's about it.
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